Danke, gern...
So langsam glaube ich auch, dass es nix bringt, jemanden davon zu überzeugen, dass er mit seiner Meinung nicht richtig liegt, wenn er so sehr daran festhält... Naja, 7 Seiten sind schon ne Leistung

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Ja, esläuft besser, 5 Prozent cpu overclock merkt man, wer was anderes sagt lügt. Dazu habe ich noch den htt von 840 auf 1050 gehoben, da gabs auch einen Unterschied, obwhol die meisten sagen es bringt nichts, jedes bischen OC hilft.
Jetzt habe ich sowieso genug antworten, ich werde mir jetzt überlegen, was ich mache.
Ich werde jetzt nichts mehr shcreiben weil für euch jede CPU gleich viel Leistung hat und OC bei keinem Gerät, Grafikkarte, Arbeitsspeicher und CPU was bringt und HTT Erhöhung bringt laut euch auch nichts weil dann die Autobhan lerrer ist, dann staut es sich allerdings weninge.r In anderen Wroten mehr Daten können durch den channel fließen um von der CPU bearbeitet zu werden. Aber nach euren theorien bringt OC überhaupt nichts, egal was für eine Komponente und laut euch ist der AMd ein sehr schneller Prozessor obwohl er in Benchmarks beschiessen darsteht aber ihr würdet sagen, Benchmarks sind falsch und nur bei Intel werden hohe Ergebnisse gezeigt, ihr Noobs.
Bei spielen bringt der höhere HTT deutlich mehr leistung und dass ist Fakt, ende der diskussion.
Zwei mal drei macht vier,
widde widde witt und drei macht neune.
Ich mach' mir die Welt,
widde widde wie sie mir gefällt.
Ofcourse feathers, but what they are telling is that an AMD cpu with only 2,8 GHz is enough for a graphics card like GTX 260 and ATI HD 4870, they tell me that on high settings always the gpu is the bottle neck, never the cpu.
don't forget to mention the 2D acceleration of your Desktop
grammaton,
even if i have a feeling that you and "Radi6404" are the same person:
No one told that overclocking parts of the system like CPU, bus or memory would not have an impact to the entire system performance.
The question is: what kind and amount of overclock can cause an acceleration that can be noticed?
"Radi6404" says that the power saving features of modern graphic cards as AMDs HD 4XX0 series would cause a drop in performance of the windows GUI. This is bullshit. Nothing else. VISTA needs a DX10 class GPU to bring AERO to life - but AERO is handled by the OS; a power saving feature of a GPU will never cause a performance drop to the GUI of VISTA.
"Radi6404" says that he would notice a difference in the scrolling of websites between stock and overclocked speeds. Do i really have to comment this?
He further claims that his CPU is at stock speed not capable of handling GOOGLE EARTH. This is bullshit. Nothing else. I could continue this list for a while.
Maybe you should ask first and use words like "dumb" then. At least this is how we handle things over here in Germany.
Some time ago I observed an increase in FPS on counterstrike source as I overclocked. The FPS began at 180, and by the time I finished overclocking the CPU to 3.6ghz, the FPS in CSS had increased to 240. Actually the FPS stopped increasing once the cpu reached about 3.2ghz. The GPU I had at the time was the 7900gt. A more modern cpu demands even more from the system.
I am currently overclocking my Q6600 to 3.848ghz. FSB = 1924mhz.
And you seem to reject radish's claim that overclocking a CPU/system can make windows smoother? That's very amusing to me since I can see the performance gain going from 2.4 to 3ghz, then to 3.6ghz, and even the jump up to 3.848. What becomes apparent is that applications open much faster, everything feels faster and even dragging the scrollbar feels smoother on firefox 3. I am talking about vista 32 here since I no longer use XP.
Learn German, read the topic and the thread. And now the most important point: UNDERSTAND what's going on here and STOP insulting people. I think that would make you a better user, maybe a better guyI recommend you see an eye specialist.
CSS: An engine witch scales with the CPU-Frequency more than any other games/engines....
You don't get the point of the discussion here. No one denies here that a increase of CPU(BUS, RAM)/GPU clock won't increase the performance. It's just the question wether it increase the performance @ scrolling in Windows. And our friend radi here has the opinion that he can tell the difference between 50 and 60 fps with his bare eyes.
You talks about overclocking a CPU. Ofc at some points the system gets 'smoother' with a higher CPU-Clock. And no one is also denying that point. But Radi talks about using the 3D-Clock of a modern GPU even 2D-Mode would increase the Perfomance @ work in windows. Even the scrolling @ firefox get better and windows are popping up faster.
Learn German, read the topic and the thread. And now the most important point: UNDERSTAND what's going on here and STOP insulting people. I think that would make you a better user, maybe a better guy![]()
Now they all tell different stories but in German they insulted me when I told that cpu increase gives a performance boost.
they recommend very fast gpus to users with very slow cpus and say that in high resolutions the gpu will always be the bottleneck. They said that windows gui doesn´t have any advantage of overclock or no overclock since it is software controlled. They say that an AMD at 2,8 GHz is fast enough for Crysis with all effects at max if there is a good gpu.
I have just slowed the clock on my 8800gt in vista. I slowed the clock in 3d mode from 675, down to 340mhz. I also slowed the shader and mem clocks as well. I can't see any difference in windows when dragging or moving things around the screen or accessing the start menu. I also slowed it in 2d mode and I couldn't see any difference there either.
So I can say that for the graphics card clock speeds I can see no difference in vista performance. For my cpu/system, big difference in performance with big overclock.
I wouldn't like to bet under those odds.![]()
And you seem to reject radish's claim that overclocking a CPU/system can make windows smoother? That's very amusing to me since I can see the performance gain going from 2.4 to 3ghz, then to 3.6ghz, and even the jump up to 3.848.
(...)I recommend you see an eye specialist.
Now they all tell different stories but in German they insulted me when I told that cpu increase gives a performance boost.
they recommend very fast gpus to users with very slow cpus and say that in high resolutions the gpu will always be the bottleneck. They said that windows gui doesn´t have any advantage of overclock or no overclock since it is software controlled. They say that an AMD at 2,8 GHz is fast enough for Crysis with all effects at max if there is a good gpu. That´s hilarious enough.
Most people here say Crysis is very badly programmed and that´s what I told you Feathers, the people here say Crysis is very badly programmed.
And no, people here are telling that increasing the Systembus makes apsolutely no difference, they compared it to a motorway with 3 lanes vs 4 lanes if it is overclocked. They said that the cars are still driving the same speed, I told them with higher system bus more data can flow so the cpu can calculate faster after that I got insulted and laughed at here. Don´t lie you fool.
Ich hatte mir schon gedacht, dass es nix bringen wird.
spätestens da hat's mich zerrissen
grammatron:
it's different from game to game. GPU is the bottleneck in most of the latest games, especially when played in high quality and high resolution. on lowest settings and lowest resolution it is the other way round (CPU is the bottleneck). but this is for benchmarking purposes only, because no one plays at 800x600 on lowest settings and it does not matter whether you have 240 or 300 fps at low settings. on the other hand, it does matter whether you have 25 or 35 fps at high settings (and compared to low settings you won't reach 35 by overclocking the CPU)
Hey the AMD @ 2.8Ghz IS fast enough to play Crysis at with the highest level of detail. Why do you still think that the CPU is to slow.
And yes, in high resolutions the CPU is always the bottleneck. If you change the resolution the CPU wont have to do much more work!